How do I convert from Majordomo to Mailman the LONG way?
         Do it like so, at the command prompt on conway::

         1. Comment out the entries concerning the list in /etc/aliases
         2. Run "sudo newaliases" - the list is NOW NOT FUNCTIONING - MAIL WILL
         BOUNCE! Majordomo no longer runs this list.
         3. Run "sudo newlist listname" . This setups the list internally for
         Mailmanager . You need to know the person's email who wil run the list. It
         will mail them insructions.
         4. Run "sudo qnewlist  . This constructs the links for the
         qmail - Mailmanager interface.
         5. The list is now working again. Go into the webpage admin section for
         the new list (via http://lists.cat.org.au), and configure
         headers/footers/welcome messages/posting policies etc. Mass subscribe
         people from the old majordomo list. The list ofpeople from the majordomo
         list is in /usr/lib/majordomo/lists/listname

         Note: an easy way to mass subscribe members is to use this script:

            /usr/lib/mailman/bin/add_members

            eg sudo ./add_members -n file_with_addresses -wn list_name

         Savanna

         WEB-BASED SUBSCRIPTIONS::

         If the list you just converted to Mailmanager used to have the ability to
         subscribe to it via a webpage (say active-sydney calendars for example).
         Replace the old HTML (which for example is like so on the active sydney
         pages in /www/active/sydney/local/include/top1.inc:)

         <FORM ACTION="http://cat.org.au/cgi-bin/majordomo" METHOD=GET>
         <INPUT TYPE=hidden NAME=action VALUE=remote>
         B<FONT FACE="Helvetica, Arial">Join our <A
         HREF="../about/#what">email lists/a!/FONT/B

         BR<FONT FACE="Helvetica, Arial" SIZE="-1">
         <INPUT TYPE=text NAME="siteaddr" SIZE="18" MAXLENGTH="80" VALUE="Your
         email here">
         br
         <SELECT NAME=list>
                 <OPTION VALUE=sydney-calendar>weekly calendar/OPTION
                 <OPTION VALUE=sydney>sydney events/OPTION
                 <OPTION VALUE=sydney-talk>sydney talk/OPTION
         /SELECT
         br
         <INPUT TYPE=radio NAME=command VALUE=subscribe  CHECKED>subscribe&nbsp;
         <INPUT TYPE=radio NAME=command VALUE=unsubscribe>unsubscribe&nbsp;
         <INPUT TYPE=submit VALUE="Do It!">/font

         /FORM

         with new HTML like so:

         <FORM Method=POST ACTION="/cgi-bin/mailman/subscribe/catgeek">

           B<FONT COLOR="#000000">Subscribing to Catgeek/FONT/B
           br
           Your email address:<INPUT type="Text" name="email" size="30">
           br
           <FONT SIZE=-1>You must enter a privacy password. This provides only mild
         security, but should prevent others from messing with your
         subscription.  bDo not use a valuable password/b as it will
         occasionally be emailed back to you in cleartext. Once a month, your
         password will be emailed to you as a reminder.
           /FONT
           br
           Pick a password:<INPUT type="Password" name="pw" size="15">
           br
           Reenter password to confirm:<INPUT
         type="Password" name="pw-conf" size="15">
           br
           Would you like to receive list mail batched in a daily digest?
           <input type=radio name="digest" value="0" CHECKED> No
           <input type=radio name="digest" value="1">  Yes
           center<INPUT
         type="Submit" name="email-button" value="Subscribe">/center

         /FORM

         NOTE WELL: The replacement HTML here doesn let you unsubscribe and is only
         for ONE list, whereas the old HTML could sub and unsub from multiple
         lists!

         This isnt really an issue anyway, since Mailmanager already provides the
         quite comprenhensive web page interface for list subscribers. So just add
         a link to the login screen for your list for people who are already
         members.

         andy (at) cat.org.au, sonia (at) cat.org.au